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All right. The league average isolated patience o...

2008-07-24T20:57:38.736-05:00

All right. The league average isolated patience once eliminating intentional walks is .065. So Morneau is still slightly above average in patience.

But yes, I agree nobody on the Twins besides Mauer has stellar discipline. And as a team overall, we're terrible. Hopefully Span can maintain his rate and be a leadoff man for a while. Maybe he'll rub off.

Also, I should note that part of Morneau's improve...

2008-07-24T20:10:55.358-05:00

Also, I should note that part of Morneau's improvement relates not to his own patience, but teams simply pitching around him. Lastly, I probably poorly worded what i was trying to say. I was not saying "no plate discipline outside of Mauer," but meant to say no serious plate discipline outside of Mauer. And I think that remains true based on what I can see.

Fair enough, but let me point a few more things ou...

2008-07-24T20:06:45.454-05:00

Fair enough, but let me point a few more things out in support of my point. I'd say that overall, Twins players aren't particularly adept at working the count. Of course, Gomez, Young, and Casilla are the first players I think of when I think lack of patience.

As a team, the Twins are only 24th in the bigs in walks, with 305. I can't say much about Span, because he hasn't even had 100 at-bats in the major leagues. I'm not saying he isn't a patient hitter, but its hard to conclude right now he's going to keep up that rate. As for everyone else, Monroe has the problem of a small sample-size as well, Cuddyer and Kubel have only average patience, and while Morneau has improved, Mauer remains the only player on the roster who affirmately has above average patience. Morneau is heading that direction and Span may turn out to be that way, but the fact remains this team is sub-par when it comes to being patient.

1)What other boneheaded mistakes has Casilla made ...

2008-07-24T18:53:58.677-05:00

1)What other boneheaded mistakes has Casilla made this year? I don't watch a lot of games, but a lot of the talk on message boards this year (and at the WGOM) is how Casilla is making so few mental errors this year as compared with last.

2)Mauer is the only player with plate discipline? The average isolated patience in MLB this year is 0.069. Twins players at or above this average are:

Mauer: .096
Span: .095
Morneau:.072
Cuddyer:.072
Monroe: .075
Kubel: .068

Span has been as patient as Mauer, and one can't complain about these other four guys.

Does Bonser have any AAA options left?Nope, and th...

2008-07-24T16:32:41.548-05:00

Does Bonser have any AAA options left?

Nope, and the Twins will lose him if they try to put him through waivers. I'm not convinced they'd lose Bass. I'm not convinced it would matter much if they did.

while putting liriano in place of hernandez is mor...

2008-07-24T16:17:42.153-05:00

while putting liriano in place of hernandez is more than justified, putting liriano in place of any pitcher in the rotation or bullpen would also be justified besides baker and nathan. to me, this is what makes it all the more annoying.

maybee its not that simple, but to me you have your best players on the active roster, so if it is an 11 or 12 man staff, you have your 11 or 12 best pitchers, which means bass and latley bonser don't cut it. Does Bonser have any AAA options left?

If the Twins are adamite about keeping Hernandez because of his veteran presence, then whatever, they are going to be stubbrn about that, but it not like nothing else can be worked out like sliding one of the younger guys into a long releif role, 6 man rotation, anything that gets Liriano on the mound. Or maybee getting to where we are 6 or 7 games out will finally get them to call up our best pitcher.
sorry i just needed to vent on that issue.

I'm not sure you really would. Having that 16-8 pi...

2008-07-24T15:32:31.224-05:00

I'm not sure you really would. Having that 16-8 pitcher with the 7.00 is a bad thing at the end of the year. It means that if you won games with him on the mound, you were extremely lucky or have an incredible offense.

You still won the games though, and that's the point. I think Smith was trying to say that he'd rather have a pitcher who won more games, because in the end winning is the most important thing. I doubt he was trying to say that he'd rather have that 7.00 ERA player going forward. Seems to me like that quote has been blown out of proportion.

I'm not sure you really would. Having that 16-8 pi...

2008-07-24T15:19:11.973-05:00

I'm not sure you really would. Having that 16-8 pitcher with the 7.00 is a bad thing at the end of the year. It means that if you won games with him on the mound, you were extremely lucky or have an incredible offense. Either way, its not looking good if you are playing into the postseason. The 8-16 pitcher with 3.50 ERA you want still because you recognize that his record does not reflect how well he pitched. In other words, the whole debate is about how meaningless wins is as a pitching statistic when assessing the value of individual pitchers.

To be fair. At the end of the year you would rathe...

2008-07-24T13:43:54.622-05:00

To be fair. At the end of the year you would rather have a pitcher who went "16-8 with a 7.00 ERA than one who is 8-16 with a 3.50 ERA" But, with that said, at any point looking forward you would rather have the lower ERA pitcher no doubt.

In Perkins' defense, it's tough not to react angri...

2008-07-24T13:15:45.602-05:00

In Perkins' defense, it's tough not to react angrily right when something like that happens. A lapse like that from Casilla is totally inexcusable.

Difficult to say what happened in the dugout, and whether Perkins was actually "throwing a fit." According to him, he was trying to be supportive:

"He lost track of the outs and that's all there is to it," Perkins said. "I think I'm sure he's going to pay extra close attention to that. I just gave him a pat on the rear and said, 'I'll get you another one and we'll get it next time.' I think you've gotta move on from that."

I wasn't very impressed by Perkins' reaction to Ca...

2008-07-24T12:34:22.555-05:00

I wasn't very impressed by Perkins' reaction to Casilla's mistake. He had a right to be frustrated, but he needed to immediately shake it off and focus on the next hitter. Easier said than done, I suppose, but by becoming visibly and demonstrably angry at his second baseman, followed by throwing a fit in the dugout, Perkins indicated that he may have let the frustration affect his pitching. Not the best way to handle the situation.

Not calling up Liriano is obviously getting harder...

2008-07-24T12:28:23.531-05:00

Not calling up Liriano is obviously getting harder and harder to defend and its really sad when the GM claims he'd rather have a guy who was "16-8 with a 7.00 ERA than one who is 8-16 with a 3.50 ERA." Really, maybe that tells us all we need to know. Until Livan stops his "winning ways," Liriano may not have a spot, because none of the four young starters have given good reason to be pulled from the rotation.

As for the Perkins mistake, that may be true, but it is hard to say that Casilla did not have the more egregious gaffe in the field. Forgetting how many outs there are is pretty bad. Anyways, if I remember correctly, Perkins fielded his position pretty well on the first play of the game.

except that one play earlier perkins did not cover...

2008-07-24T12:02:54.316-05:00

except that one play earlier perkins did not cover first on a ball hit to the right side, which would have been two outs leaving Casilla's gaffe not even a possibility of happening.
Perkins needs to work on his own fundamentals as well, and the twins are starting to get more annoying by the day not calling up liriano.

Oh wow...I'm glad I didn't see Casilla not turn th...

2008-07-24T08:21:12.763-05:00

Oh wow...I'm glad I didn't see Casilla not turn that double play. I wonder if Perkins will ever forgive him. Yikes.

Aha! That offensive inept tag is back!

2008-07-24T03:17:35.627-05:00

Aha! That offensive inept tag is back!